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Subject:Pet peeve du jour
Time:04:15 pm
Maybe it's just me, but people who pronounce daemon DAY-mun drive me nuts.

(sent from a meeting that I don't want to be in)
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cpk
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Time:2007-02-21 12:23 am (UTC)
Bah, I conceded this one years ago. When you pronounce it correctly, no one knows what the fuck you are talking about.
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freelikebeer
Subject:For those of us who don't know latin
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Time:2007-02-21 12:34 am (UTC)
Is it 'deh-mun' ? I've heard people say 'dee-mun' before, as well 'day-mon' (ya, brah), neither of which also seem right.
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whipartist
Subject:Re: For those of us who don't know latin
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Time:2007-02-21 12:47 am (UTC)
it's english. daemon is just a spelling variation on demon. DEE-mun is correct.
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janinedog
Subject:Re: For those of us who don't know latin
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Time:2007-02-21 01:04 am (UTC)
Assuming I'm reading it correctly, Wikipedia says it's DAY-mon when talking about computers.
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whipartist
Subject:Re: For those of us who don't know latin
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Time:2007-02-21 01:13 am (UTC)
(a) wikipedia is about as authoritative as... well, nevermind.
(b) that's because geeks have been too lazy to use the correct pronunciation.
(c) wikipedia is often edited by the lazy geeks in (b).

But hey, I tend toward prescriptive rather than descriptive.
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foomf
Subject:Re: For those of us who don't know latin
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Time:2007-02-21 01:30 am (UTC)
It's also because we deliberately chose to use "Day-mun" for things spelled daemon to differentiate from 'demon' which had other meanings that would ambiguate. Really, you have to know what fun it is to talk about demons in a public place and have to deal with the shocked and horrified expressions from casual onlookers. (in the late 70s. Now, of course, they'd just think you were a Buffy geek.)
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whipartist
Subject:Re: For those of us who don't know latin
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Time:2007-02-21 01:32 am (UTC)
Don't forget the story about the guy who wore a BSD shirt to a restaurant in Texas. The locals assumed he was a devil worshipper.
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evwhore
Subject:Re: For those of us who don't know latin
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Time:2007-02-21 02:18 am (UTC)
Woman. I worked with Linda at Z-Code.
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foomf
Subject:Re: For those of us who don't know latin
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Time:2007-02-21 05:45 am (UTC)
Interesting. I heard it told in first-person by a guy at Usenix in 86. I bet it happened more than once.
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foomf
Subject:Re: For those of us who don't know latin
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Time:2007-02-21 05:47 am (UTC)
Though his story wasn't that one. His was being threatened at a gas station, iirc.
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foomf
Subject:Re: For those of us who don't know latin
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Time:2007-02-21 05:44 am (UTC)
Yeah, I remember him telling that at the big Usenix meet-up when they held it here in Portland.
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freelikebeer
Subject:Re: For those of us who don't know latin
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Time:2007-02-21 02:19 am (UTC)
t's also because we deliberately chose to use "Day-mun" for things spelled daemon to differentiate from 'demon' which had other meanings that would ambiguate.

Kind of, since the daemons were originally, whimsically, thought of as deus (dei?) ex machina.
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luckylefty
Subject:Re: For those of us who don't know latin
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Time:2007-02-21 04:21 pm (UTC)
It's been fixed

I really like the fact that the full history of versions of Wikipedia articles is available. For example, the history of the Prophets of Islam page tells me that you had the bad luck to view this page between 4:28 and 4:36 on February 13. This seems to be quite an accurate page except during those six minutes. Occasional vandalism like this, followed by speedy reversion, is the price Wikipedia pays for speedy updates and millions of people doing useful updates: I find that it's worth it, on balance.
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evwhore
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Time:2007-02-21 01:08 am (UTC)
I say dee, but don't mind day. Well-established interoperability principle: be strict about what you generate and liberal in what you accept :-)
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tigerknight
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Time:2007-02-21 02:48 pm (UTC)
I don't really care either way, and never really looked it up before considering it's such a non-issue. Now that I have though I'll be doing what you do here :]
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mspurrmeow
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Time:2007-02-21 01:12 am (UTC)
I was just in a networking class where everyone had the same text. The subject of daemon came up and the student reading the passage (including the pronunciation hint) pronounced it wrong. The pronunciation key was written in bold lettering, and he pronounced it out syllable by syllable incorrectly. What the...? My head about exploded!

Just another case of people wanting something to sound more fancy than it really is.

(Looking forward to seeing you in a few weeks!)

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prock
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Time:2007-02-21 02:39 am (UTC)
Just another case of people wanting something to sound more fancy than it really is.

As opposed to people wanting something to look more fancy than it really is (by writing daemon instead of demon).
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prock
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Time:2007-02-21 02:38 am (UTC)
In a bit of psuedo irony, one of my pet peeves is pet peeves.
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drj0402
Subject:My pet peeve is...
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Time:2007-02-21 03:14 am (UTC)
...people who pronounce query with an "eh."

It's pronounced "queery," dammit!
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luckylefty
Subject:Re: My pet peeve is...
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Time:2007-02-21 04:23 pm (UTC)
Merriam-Webster says both pronunciations are acceptable. I think of the "eh" one as being primarily british.
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tigerknight
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Time:2007-02-21 02:44 pm (UTC)
They are probably working off the general guideline from elementary school of 'when two vowels go walking, the first one does the talking' (which I was guilty of until just now after looking up the dictionary pronunciation).

Unfortunately there are just as many exceptions to the guides as there are followers.. so you end up with a mix of results. Potato, anyone?
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