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Subject:On Vox: BattleCry
Time:12:49 am

While I was eating breakfast this morning, I came across this article about BattleCry in the Contra Costa Times. If you aren't aware, BattleCry is basically a militant Christan rally for teenagers.  It was held in San Francisco this weekend.

I'll admit that I have no love for Christianity or any other organized religion, and I'm not the least bit surprised that the city welcomed the group with something less than open arms.  I'm highly amused by the very slanted writing in this article-- read it and try to pick out the extremism.  I love this paragraph:

Christian teenagers are the true victims, say BattleCry officials. "A stealth enemy has infiltrated our country and is preying upon the hearts and minds of 33 million American teens," says BattleCry's Web site, which blames corporations and popular culture for spending billions to "seduce and enslave our youth."

This one made me feel like the writer was marching me right up to the edge of an opinion and then giving me a shove.  "It's OK for religions to spend billions to seduce and enslave our youth, but not corporations."  Maybe it's just that said thought comes naturally to me, but it felt like the writer was really steering me in that direction.  I also like this one:

Christians are finally speaking up, which may be making people anxious, said David Hasz, director of Teen Mania's Honor Academy, which offers training in leadership and character building. "For too long, the church has sat with their mouths duct-taped, in the closet. We've allowed Christianity to become a private, personal value. We don't believe it's private. We believe it's a worldview."

And this one just made me want to strangle the speaker.  Yes, Christianity should fucking well be a private personal value.  Yes, it can be a worldview, but it's your worldview, and I do wish you'd keep it to yourself.  I'll ask you about it if I want to know more, and until such time as I decide to share your world view (or wild monkeys fly out of my ass, and it's neck-and-neck on which will happen first), I do not want your values forced on me or on society.

This part is great too:

Organizers also riled up their followers before the event. After neighbors complained last year about rock music blared at 8 a.m. on a Saturday, the city said nothing can be amplified until 10 a.m. this year.

BattleCry then circulated an e-mail encouraging people to criticize the city for "unfairly singling out and menacing the peaceful gathering of Christian youth and parents."

Bob Davis, executive director of the city commission that oversees the noise permits, said he was baffled by the letter. Other groups, including the Rolling Stones, have had to accommodate neighbors, he said.

Luce said discrimination was the only reason he could fathom for the change.

How about courtesy?  Common sense?  If you're waking up the neighborhood then you're out of line and you need to keep quiet.  Really, there's just no need for amplified music before 10 a.m. if anyone lives within reasonable earshot.  It's not discrimination, it's preserving the peace.  Comma, you short-sighted self-centered inconsiderate nimrod.

OK, maybe the author of the news story was leading me to the edge, but I jumped of my own free well.  I honestly think that indoctrinating children into this sort of culture is about the worst thing you can do to them.  If I was king, I'd outlaw it.


Originally posted on patti.vox.com

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feklhr
Subject:Poor pitiful teenagers
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Time:2007-03-12 01:35 pm (UTC)
Just try to drive past a high school when it lets out, shop near a school in the afternoon, or, more personally, monitor activity in a library after school. The pity party for teens will come to an abrupt halt. Many parents have no idea what their children are doing when they are not under their own roof. Maybe a bit less pity should be requested and a bit more service in the community should be done. Let's see the actions, not the words.

All hail Patti, our new king!
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evwhore
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Time:2007-03-12 04:09 pm (UTC)
I really didn't see the writing as being slanted -- it seems to give air time to both sides without editorializing.

The sentence you say feels like "the writer was marching me right up to the edge of an opinion" is a quotation from one of the BattleCry folks. Did you miss the quote where someone on "our" side drew a direct comparison between them and the Hitler youth?
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whipartist
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Time:2007-03-12 04:29 pm (UTC)
No, I saw the Hitler youth comment. It felt to me like the writer was going for maximum inflammatory, but also like they were trying to make the BattleCry people look like idjits.
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scottro
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Time:2007-03-12 04:56 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry. I'm just picturing wild monkeys flying out of your ass, and it's pretty funny.

Damn Christian wackos anyway. Around here, the extend of religious extremism is the every-weekend Vegas nights. Catholics, it seems, prefer to follow the money as opposed to the fame.

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luckylefty
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Time:2007-03-12 08:43 pm (UTC)
I'm glad I live in a world where when I hear BattleCry, I'm pretty sure the speaker is talking about this.
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filthy_habit
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Time:2007-03-12 08:53 pm (UTC)
"I honestly think that indoctrinating children into this sort of culture is about the worst thing you can do to them. If I was king, I'd outlaw it."

Here, here!

I don't know if you've seen the HBO Documentary "Friends of God" but it's worth a look, as BattleCry has a moment or two in the film. Very scary stuff. I'm also dying to see "Jesus Camp." More scary stuff based on what clips I've seen.

What we've been facing is this increasingly militant Xtian movement in this country that seems to be growing exponentially. While I know it's always been there, it just never seemed so fanatical or as far reaching as it is now. They're using all of the latest Madison Avenue mind-bending techniques to catch these kids out of the cradle; from framing themselves as victims of some kind of secular conspiracy to sing-song anti-evolution, fallacy laden rhetoric, and now this "army" of teenagers, caught when they're the most vulnerable. I dread the day my daughter is invited to one of those BattleCry things because I'm sure that all but the strongest willed teens can get sucked into the program. I can only hope that I've prepared her for the worst.
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