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Subject:Laptop
Time:12:55 am
I'm getting tempted to pull the trigger on this:

Dell Latitude E6500

PROCESSORIntel® Core. 2 Duo P9500 (2.53GHz, 6M L2 Cache, 1066MHz FSB)
OPERATING SYSTEMGenuine Windows Vista Business Bonus-Windows XP Professional downgrade
PRODUCTIVITYMicrosoft® Office 2007 Basic and Adobe Acrobat 8.1 STD
WARRANTY & SERVICE3 Year Limited Warranty and 3 Year Mail-in Service
LCD PANEL15.4" UltraSharp. Widescreen WUXGA (1920x1200) Display-Brushed Metal Black
VIDEO CARDMobile Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD
MEMORY4.0GB, DDR2-800 SDRAM, 2 DIMMS
INTERNAL KEYBOARDInternal English Keyboard
CAMERA/MICROPHONEIntegrated Webcam with digital microphone
PRIMARY STORAGE250GB Hard Drive, 7200RPM with Free Fall Sensor
OPTICAL DRIVE8X DVD+/-RW w/Roxio and Cyberlink Power DVD.
WI-FI WIRELESS CARDDell Wireless. 1510 802.11a/g/n Draft Mini Card
BLUETOOTH WIRELESSDell Wireless® 370 Bluetooth Module
FINGERPRINT READER OPTIONNo Fingerprint Reader
BACKUP OS DRIVERS AND SYSTEM DOCUMENTATIONResource DVD - Contains Diagnostics and Drivers
My Accessories
BATTERY9 Cell Battery
PRIMARY POWER OPTIONS90W A/C Adapter (3-pin)
ADDITIONAL POWER OPTIONS90 Watt Additional AC Adpater, 3-Pin
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jellymillion
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Time:2008-09-16 08:27 am (UTC)
1920x1200 in 15.4 inches would be sexy.

You probably need this.
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whipartist
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Time:2008-09-16 08:28 am (UTC)
My current 3.5-year-old Dell has 1920x1200 in a 15.4" display. I consider it the minimum acceptable.
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andrewhime
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Time:2008-09-16 03:06 pm (UTC)
I think you're both sick. That rez needs a 17".
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whipartist
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Time:2008-09-16 04:18 pm (UTC)
You, sir, are dead wrong.

Besides, 17" isn't a portable machine.
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andrewhime
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Time:2008-09-16 04:27 pm (UTC)
I'm a complete pussy at lifting heavy things, and I tended to disagree.
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whipartist
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Time:2008-09-16 04:34 pm (UTC)
I travel a lot, and schlep my laptop around a lot when I'm at home. My 15" is a bit too big and heavy, but I do it anyway. My four-pound Sharp was perfect, except the screen resolution was too low to be useful.

A 17" machine wouldn't fit into my camera backpack.

Besides, a 17" screen is just too big. I like lots of data compressed into tight visual spaces.
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jellymillion
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Time:2008-09-17 10:30 am (UTC)
Before it sort of died, my little Tosh had 1400x1050 in 12". Looked superb, albeit with teeny-tiny text. High pixel density rules.
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shabbirjsafdar
Subject:3g modem
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Time:2008-09-16 02:00 pm (UTC)
The 3g modems that Dell has built into the mobo's of the laptop's are pretty sweet. I see you're not ordering one. You just slip in a sim card from a provider (like AT&T) and there's no external antenna anywhere, and you've got everywhere connectivity.

If you're the kind of person that would want to work at the library, or starbucks, or if you travel much and hate how hotels rape you for poor internet access, or if you spend a non-trivial amount of time in places other than your desk, it might be worth it.

I can't really claim cost/benefit since my workplace pays for it.

You can accomplish the same effect by buying the PCMCIA or PC-Express pluggable modem, but its a dongle that sticks out the side of your laptop, which can be aggravating.

I just got a new laptop at work and since I didn't configure the new one, it didn't have the 3g modem and I have to confess, it's made me sad. When I'm on travel I can't just whip it out and connect anywhere.

My AT&T service runs about $80 / mo, btw.

Oh, and it's 3g, so you can use it in a moving vehicle or train because the protocol has a handoff from cell to cell, unlike wifi.
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adbjupe
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Time:2008-09-16 02:56 pm (UTC)
I had a look at the graphics: Here's a benchmark site http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html

Rank 97, the standard Intel integrated graphics X3100 ranks 127. This is okay for online poker and will do for low-performance settings for 3D games at 1900x1200.
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andrewhime
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Time:2008-09-16 03:07 pm (UTC)
What, no backlit keyboard and fingerprint reader?

After having my laptop stolen, I say go for the little extra security bit if it makes your data inaccesible.
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shabbirjsafdar
Subject:the fingerprint reader
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Time:2008-09-16 03:29 pm (UTC)
I like the dell fingerprint readers, but at best they stop you from logging in.

A motivated thief like me would just pull the drive out of the laptop to get what I wanted and bypass the reader if you didn't tie the reader to some sort of encryption software, which is hard with the Dell laptops.

Do like I do and install pgp for windows and put all of your stuff on a secure virtual drive. Then when someone wants to get it, it becomes either an intimidation or a Fourth Amendment issue.
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andrewhime
Subject:Re: the fingerprint reader
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Time:2008-09-16 03:47 pm (UTC)
From my theft experience, I would say they're not necessarily motivated.
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bittercrackbaby
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Time:2008-09-16 03:26 pm (UTC)
get the better video card and the intel a/g/n wireless. also if your company deals with dell get their rep and they may be able to provide a discount on top.
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whipartist
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Time:2008-09-16 04:19 pm (UTC)
What's the advantage of Intel over Dell?

Don't care about video cards. I play poker, run Photoshop, browse the web, and run ssh.
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prock
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Time:2008-09-16 05:20 pm (UTC)
Good video cards are probably worth it if they have a bump in memory. A quick scan of the interwebs indicates that you'll probably want a 256mb card for photoshop.
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bittercrackbaby
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Time:2008-09-16 06:45 pm (UTC)
I've generally found profile management and driver support to be cleaner with the Intel over the Dell, but that may have changed over time. It's something I've ordered for work since the D610 series.

If I were using Photoshop on the laptop, I would not get integrated graphics.
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gunga_galunga
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Time:2008-09-16 04:20 pm (UTC)
Before ordering, check http://www.techbargains.com to see if they have any dell coupon codes that cover this model.
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byronium
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Time:2008-09-16 06:26 pm (UTC)
> I'm getting tempted to pull the trigger on this:

What?! People are shooting at laptops again and nobody told me?! Argh! I want in!!
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whipartist
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Time:2008-09-16 06:39 pm (UTC)
I probably have one you can shoot at if you want.
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whitebird
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Time:2008-09-17 06:14 am (UTC)
Intel integrated graphics cards are pretty minimal. And the more graphic card RAM you have, the happier Photoshop will be.

Adobe is currently shipping version 9 of Acrobat Standard.

I'd aim for a Dual Layer DVD writer drive, if possible.

With the data density of the 320GB+ 2.5" drives, 7200RPM isn't quite as necessary in a good laptop as it used to be.

Glad you're getting an XP downgrade, Vista works, but it doesn't make me happy. (Well, Windows doesn't make me happy at all, but XP is a more known and less irritating lack of happiness than Vista is at the moment.)

If you want faster Bluetooth, get it. There is no too fast.

If it has IEEE-1394 (FireWire) as an option, that's faster for Photoshop levels of throughput for hard drives than USB2 is. 1394B is faster yet (FireWire 800), and fastest is eSATA. These days, I'd aim for eSATA. (And I'm buying and speccing all external drives with eSATA for future compatibility.)

I still think you're a loon over the screen resolution, but my eyes suck so that could just be personal bias. :)
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whipartist
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Time:2008-09-17 06:21 am (UTC)
I *am* a loon over screen resolution, but that's a necessity for four-tabling online poker. Besides, I like information density.

It does have firewire. I didn't get faster bluetooth because the option disappeared when I went to order today. No biggie.

I also got a dual-layer DVD writer. Actually, I'm not 100% certain it's dual-layer, but that's OK.

Oh, yeah. I ordered it today.
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whitebird
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Time:2008-09-17 06:59 am (UTC)
Yay new hardware! :)
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mspurrmeow
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Time:2008-09-18 04:49 am (UTC)
Just one more vote for upgrading that video card. You may not feel like you do much to warrant a better card, but low-end ones have a hard time with the basic stuff.

Enjoy! New technology is always a hoot!
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