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Subject:Lahk tah make mah eyes hurt
Time:03:54 pm
It's well past time to redo pattib.org with both more modern design and content. To that end, I was browisng CSS Zen Garden today looking for ideas-- it's a wonderful site, with a simple concept-- they provide a base web page, and people design beautiful and elegant CSS for it.

I came across this beauty called 8-bit.

There's also the classic Geocities 1996.

One of my coworkers just showed me this command-line blog theme.
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abostick59
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Time:2008-10-23 11:45 pm (UTC)
Your markup for the Geocities 1996 style is upgefucked ("a rhef=" rather than "a href=")
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whipartist
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Time:2008-10-23 11:47 pm (UTC)
Merci beaucoup.
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evwhore
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Time:2008-10-24 12:30 am (UTC)
That can't be Geocities 1996, there aren't enough broken image links.
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essaying
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Time:2008-10-24 01:05 am (UTC)
How do these work? I need to do my author site soonest and some of them are just beautiful (I'm drawn to Elegance In Simplicity, myself). How does one go about adapting these ideas to one's own page without infringing the designer's copyright? How about if one is at best an advanced beginner?
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whipartist
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Time:2008-10-24 01:23 am (UTC)
Do you understand the basics of how CSS works?

From their FAQ:

Can I use these designs for other things?
You may not use any of the graphics (image files: GIF, JPG, and PNG) on the Zen Garden elsewhere without the original designer's written permission. There are no exceptions to this. The Garden is about learning from other people's work, but not using it uncompensated. While the CSS files themselves are provided as-is under a very open Creative Commons license, we'd encourage you to learn from them and create your own designs instead of using them as a basis for your work. Go ahead and learn from the files, and grab bits and pieces of the CSS as you need them. But if you're using the bulk of the original .css file and only changing a few colours and images, you're basically cloning the design. Please e-mail the designer for permission before doing this, and respect their wishes if they prefer that you don't.


If you have an understanding of CSS, you could probably pick it apart and figure out how to incorporate the key ideas. If not, you could probably find a friend to do something similar for you, or contact the designer to get permission.
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essaying
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Time:2008-10-24 01:27 am (UTC)
I do, sort of, but I'm unclear on the dividing line between "grabbing bits and pieces" and using the concept. Maybe if I go in there and actually try to work with the material it will be clearer.
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whipartist
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Time:2008-10-24 02:36 am (UTC)
Why would someone put something on CSSZG? I'd imagine it's to show off, either for ego or to gather design clients, of course. However, it also comes with the expectation that people are going to both take inspiration from what you've done and pick it apart to see how it works.

If you're copying files directly from the design, you've probably gone too far. Copying the concept of "Menu at position X", colors Y and Z, font Q" is probably OK, especially if you add twists to make it your own.

My recommendation would be to play with it and see what you wind up with, and if you fear it's too close send a note to the original author and ask if they're cool with it. I'm guessing that most of the time they'll say yes.
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