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Subject:Why I prefer a treadmill
Time:11:44 am
Several people have told me I'd be better off running outdoors than on a treadmill. Here's why I prefer the treadmill:

- It's a smooth, regular surface without possible holes, rocks, and other things to trip on. It's also made for running, so it's not as hard as pavement.

- I generally run late at night. My living room is well-lit and free of two-legged critters who might do me harm.

- My living room is climate-controlled and well-lit.

- With a treadmill I have a predictable, repeatable experience, and both the controls and metrics for that are at my fingertips. As a corollary, the pace-change indications are in front of me. "Run until 17:30" is easy.

- Having small-bite progress markers in front of me keeps me going. An open trail thart didn't have very closely-spaced counters of some sort wouldn't work as well for me. I know that most people would be quite the opposite in this regard.

- My entertainment options are more varied, and don't require me to carry anything or wear headphones.

- If I injure myself, and I think this is a matter of when rather than if, help is more accessible.

The only downside I can see is that it requires a functioning treadmill. I can cause that to happen again with time and/or money, and likely not too much of either.

I don't imagine myself ever being a social or organized runner, so that's no issue.


Did I overlook anything?
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essaying
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Time:2009-11-08 07:51 pm (UTC)
Yes: Control over elevation. My hip will tolerate (barely) brisk walking on a flat surface, but it goes apeshit if I try to go uphill. Given that I live in a very hilly neighborhood, the treadmill, set to 0 incline, is the better choice for me too.
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essaying
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Time:2009-11-08 07:52 pm (UTC)
Plus: television.
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adb_foldem
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Time:2009-11-08 08:00 pm (UTC)
I can think of no reason why you would injure yourself under the program you've decided on.
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whipartist
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Time:2009-11-08 09:55 pm (UTC)
see my answer to bob.
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violet_tigress1
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Time:2009-11-08 08:25 pm (UTC)
If you need to stop, you won't be miles from home.

Bathroom is always nearby.
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rhiannonstone
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Time:2009-11-08 09:15 pm (UTC)
I'm curious why people are telling you outdoors is better.
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gunga_galunga
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Time:2009-11-08 09:36 pm (UTC)
As noted above, having a bathroom nearby can be convenient. You don't have to worry about weather. If you can tolerate running on the treadmill, then by all means keep going. Not sure why you think you're going to injure yourself running, especially on the treadmill.
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whipartist
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Time:2009-11-08 09:51 pm (UTC)
Because I'm an out-of-shape klutz who is heaving around way too much weight on a fucked-up knee and a fucked-up ankle. And because lots of runners who have none of those disadvantages eventually injure themselves in some way. I don't think the odds are in my favor on this one.
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evwhore
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Time:2009-11-09 03:29 am (UTC)
If you have an elliptical, greatly reduced joint impact is another plus.
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bellaballanda
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Time:2009-11-09 04:13 pm (UTC)
Here here for the elliptical. My knees handle that much better than running...
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catness
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Time:2009-11-08 10:36 pm (UTC)
I think the only thing you forgot was, "So shut up about where I'm running."
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whipartist
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Time:2009-11-08 10:51 pm (UTC)
Shrug. Some people seem convinced that there are serious advantages to running outside. I'm not seeing them, which is why I'm soliciting opinions. I suspect my input weightings are different than theirs.
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gunga_galunga
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Time:2009-11-09 02:12 am (UTC)
The only downside I can see is that it requires a functioning treadmill. I can cause that to happen again with time and/or money, and likely not too much of either.

I was going to post that the ground doesn't break down, but then I remembered where you live. lol.

I think if you're running a mile or two the treadmill is great, especially when you are just getting into it. (I think I ran almost exclusively on the treadmill for the first two months last winter). But for me it just gets boring if I'm on it for 30 minutes+. I also find it much easier to quit early because I can just turn it off, whereas if I've run somewhere, I have to get back so I can't really quit.
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whipartist
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Time:2009-11-09 07:31 am (UTC)
I think it may boil down to different people having different psychologies.

When there are hard numbers associated with my achievements, I have a harder time cheating than when the goals are softer. If I was going to run down to the (foo) and back, it would be easy for me to decide I'm not going to go quite all the way that day.
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slowjoe
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Time:2009-11-15 11:12 pm (UTC)
You left out "Different people, different goals, different stages in development."

I'm an occasional runner, as part of "kinda, sorta, almost doing Crossfit". Being as my weight moves around between 210lbs and 230lbs, I'm worried about injuring myself. One of the things I've picked up is that when you are running, you should try to make your footfall as close to silent as possible. This is a rule of thumb which reduces the impact of each stride.

Anyway, I do most of my running at a track a couple of miles away, since I know the surface is flat and cushioned.

I've tried running in the gym on a treadmill, and I simply haven't managed to get my footfall to sound like anything other than "slap, slap, slap".
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slfisher
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Time:2009-11-09 03:37 am (UTC)
I'm with catness. The only thing you left out is, "Look, this is working, so what's it to you?"
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frogpyjamas
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Time:2009-11-09 06:05 am (UTC)
Bravo if this works for you and you are happy!

Since I'm reading this that you are asking, the reasons I like running outside:

* around a lake (my favorite) - because quitting halfway is not an option, and seeing the same people twice (intermediate value theorem)

* running on path/dirt is much easier on my body

* the breeze is pleasant and I dislike indoor exercise

* changing scenery and being able to visually mark distances and points on path

* un-programmed changes in terrain are pleasant to my body. I know the treadmill has random, but it isn't quite the same

* there is magic to running outside that I don't have words to do justice. Haruki Murakami wrote about it in his memoir "What I think about when I think about running"
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whipartist
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Time:2009-11-09 07:32 am (UTC)
Those things all make sense, but they mostly don't resonate with me. I think it may just be that different people have different psychologies and motivations, and the people who are telling me I really should be outdoors just think differently than I do.
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thorfinn
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Time:2009-11-09 08:09 am (UTC)
I think you're right. :-)

There are a lot of things that are nice about running outdoors, but I suspect they are things you don't value as nice... and all the reasons you've listed for a treadmill hold true for you.
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gunga_galunga
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Time:2009-11-09 05:28 pm (UTC)
My last thought on all of this is that once you're able to run about 2 miles at a clip, give running outside a try and see if you like it. Most of the commentators who are suggesting that running outside is nicer have done both. I think they both have their place.
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loser_variable
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Time:2009-11-10 02:38 am (UTC)
Exactly. That's what I was trying to say, except I used 10X as many words.
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frogpyjamas
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Time:2009-11-10 05:09 am (UTC)
distance running is a good point I did not think of before. I like to run in 2-4 mile increments, which may be the reason I strongly prefer outdoors. I also keep track of the miles I run so that I know when to get new shoes.
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loser_variable
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Time:2009-11-10 02:35 am (UTC)

If there's one approach you're going to stick with more reliably, than that's the most important thing. If that's the 'mill, then the mill wins. You make some valid points that don't come into play for me. Safety (from people) is not something I've ever even thought about. Running up or down hill is a non-issue for me. Also, as a guy, the world is my bathroom, although I bet this comes in to play much less often than non-runners would guess. Like, so far I'll say "never."

Having said all that…I'd still no sooner run indoors when outside is an option than I would play golf or ski on a simulator rather than a lovely course or slope. Also no one has raised what I hate the most about the treadmill: staying at such an exact speed is a royal pain. I know you can adjust them, but it is a pain. Those simple little shifts and surges that just come naturally as you warm to the workout, I hate having to adjust for those. On the treadmill, it's like having a very precise pacer that you have to stay within 2 feet of. And yes, on one occasion I got a little behind and was unceremoniously dumped off the back, onto the floor, in a crowded gym. It is not possible to make that big an ass of yourself on a trail, even if you take a face-first dive, not that I am bitter.

Obviously you're gonna (and should) do what works for you. May I still recommend you at least try outdoors (especially trail over road) if a good occasion presents itself? I persist because I know dozens of runners, and you're the only one I've heard say they prefer the treadmill.

"Because I'm an out-of-shape klutz who is heaving around way too much weight on a fucked-up knee and a fucked-up ankle. And because lots of runners who have none of those disadvantages eventually injure themselves in some way."

It gets better. Running isn't the #1 cause of leg joint issues, being overweight is. I'll ditto the elliptical as very impact friendly.
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