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Subject:Dear lazyweb: google calendar
Time:11:32 pm
So I've set up a Google calendar to go with the Droid. That makes me unhappy for a variety of reasons, but it makes sense so I'll go with it.

Cool. So United provides flight info to me in vCal format. I should just be able to import that into the Google calendar, right? It's not so easy. I have to download every single leg of the flight individually to a file on my local machine, then one by one go through the import process on the Google calendar.

It seems like there should be some much easier way to do this, but I'm sure as hell not seeing it. Help?
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andrewhime
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Time:2009-11-18 08:42 am (UTC)
I'd imagine there's an app. I messed around with FlightView for the Pre when I was doing my BARGE shizz.
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whipartist
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Time:2009-11-18 09:09 am (UTC)
A phone-based app is the wrong thing. I need something that lives on my desktop and automatically handles the calendar download -> google calendar part of the equation.
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adbjupe
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Time:2009-11-18 12:13 pm (UTC)
I uninstalled Google desktop including the calendar the other day when the news app displayed an ESPN report about Bill Belichick's call while I was reading jnala's post about it. I am no sportsfan, so it shouldn't come up because of my browsing history. And I was using IE, not even Chrome.

Call me paranoid.
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whipartist
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Time:2009-11-18 03:02 pm (UTC)
I have never installed the Google desktop, particularly because I have huge privacy concerns about Google as a company. I try not to give them information in general, but they've just made it too easy for me to do things (well, in theory at least) that I might be willing to relent on this one.
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sfogarty
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Time:2009-11-18 05:40 pm (UTC)
I find Google to be the most moral computer company out there, and I've yet to see any substantiated privacy concerns that aren't FUD. So unless you have huge privacy concerns about /everyone/, I find this strange.
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whipartist
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Time:2009-11-18 06:37 pm (UTC)
Google crossed the line into evil for me a while ago, in general.

So one of my concerns, which I think is a legit concern and not just FUD, is that they are accumulating a frightening amount of data about a lot of people. That makes them a target, both of hackers (which I'm not *too* worried about) and of governments. I suspect Google is pretty naive about how much they'd be able to fight off a really strong demand from a major government.

IOW, I think Google is going to be the next company participating in the equivalent of warrantless wiretapping.

Is that a major concern for me? Not really... I have little to hide. I'm still taking steps to avoid giving Google more information than I have to.
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sfogarty
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Time:2009-11-18 07:24 pm (UTC)
Why do you consider Google evil? Google (unlike Yahoo) has at least shows willingness to fight government orders. Now you may doubt their capability to do so, but then that holds for every company.
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whipartist
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Time:2009-11-18 08:06 pm (UTC)
It's not privacy-related, but they crossed the line when they exhibited a profound unwillingness to do anything about spam that originated from their network.
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adbjupe
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Time:2009-11-19 02:00 pm (UTC)
I find Google to be the most moral computer company out there, and I've yet to see any substantiated privacy concerns that aren't FUD. So unless you have huge privacy concerns about /everyone/, I find this strange.

Similar to Patti, I am more scared of the potential for trouble than the actual abuse. There's mission creep and the manual to how to boil a frog.
Prevention is half the battle.
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sfogarty
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Time:2009-11-19 08:34 pm (UTC)
Google has behaved better than any company. They open up almost all of their projects, they provide API's for almost all of their web services, they work with competitors for the betterment of the marketplace, and IMO they have talked to researchers with privacy concerns an order of magnitude more than Microsoft or Yahoo. If we distrust them simply because they are big, then we are removing any incentive for large companies to behave morally.

Name another company that has created internal tools.. web toolkit, wave, map-reduce.. and released them despite no conceivable profit or benefit.
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whipartist
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Time:2009-11-19 08:52 pm (UTC)
Perhaps it's not that we distrust them because they're big so much as we distrust any broad collection of data.

I have less faith than you do that Google is a benevolent, altruistic entity with my best interests at heart-- I've seen sufficient evidence to convince me that they're not. Still, even if I grant you that Google loves us and will always do the right thing, they are a target simply because they have such a large collection of data. When the gummint comes knocking at their door and insists that they fork over the data, they're not going to be able to say no even if they want to.
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adbjupe
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Time:2009-11-19 08:55 pm (UTC)
Because we've seen it before, power will be abused eventually. Just imagine the next recession. By then, we may have a Google competitor, or Google bit off more than it could chew in one of their business segments. The share price is down to $15 (IPO shares) and the company is hurting for cash. File for chapter 11 or use all that data? Remember, it's a business not a country.
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ronsrants
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Time:2009-11-18 02:56 pm (UTC)
I usually just type my iternaries into the PC on Google Calendar. Takes like 2 sec. to create and set a calendar entry on a computer.

-R
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whipartist
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Time:2009-11-18 02:58 pm (UTC)
Well, yeah, I *could* do that, but I want to use this labor-saving device to save me labor.
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ronsrants
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Time:2009-11-18 03:04 pm (UTC)
Sometimes things are not quite as they seem.

For instance, I get more utility out of facebook and monopoly on my PRE than I do anywhere else. But entering stuff on the calendar on the PC is more efficient than on the PRE. Conversely, it is easier to view stuff on the PRE calendar than on the PC one.

Texting is slower on the PRE than IM on the PC, but I can do it in bed. Of course, I could IM in bed with the laptop, but that would be compromising and compromising is bad. When one spends more on the phone than the laptop, one must find excuses to use the phone.

-R
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whipartist
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Time:2009-11-18 03:11 pm (UTC)
And if I already have a handy dandy file of event calendar data sitting on my computer, it seems like there should be some way to click on it and have it automatically added to my Google calendar, rather than having to go to Google calendar, click on import, find the file, and click submit.

If I was using a local desktop-based calendar, I could just doubleclick the file and have it magically added to an iCalendar. Someone out there has to have written an app that's basically a Google calendar uploader-- doubleclick the .vcs file and the app sends the information to your Google calendar.

I found a discussion of other people asking for the same functionality:

http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Calendar/thread?tid=1cd218d86a70ff9f&hl=en
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essaying
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Time:2009-11-18 05:11 pm (UTC)
Can you use iCal as an intermediary? Anything I type into my iCal is automatically uploaded to my Google calendar.
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whipartist
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Time:2009-11-18 06:37 pm (UTC)
Isn't iCal a MacOS thing?
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essaying
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Time:2009-11-18 06:39 pm (UTC)
Yes -- sorry, I assumed you were a Mac user. Nice to hear about a sync issue that actually works better in Mac ;)
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whipartist
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Time:2009-11-18 06:41 pm (UTC)
Nope. Apple doesn't make a laptop that meets my minimum requirements, and I'm not willing to pay a huge premium for something that doesn't work as well for me.
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