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Subject:Keeping kittens in but not cats?
Time:10:28 am
Here's the layout:

Go up a flight of stairs. At the top is a doorway-width opening, but no actual door. There's a dresser to the immediate right of the doorway, about two feet deep. There's a solid wall to the left of the doorway. Oh, screw it-- a picture will be easier:

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I'm trying to find something that will let me keep the kittens in, but allow the adult cats to go in and out. I have a box there right now, and that worked well for a few weeks but now the little rascals have learned to climb over it. They can make it down the stairs OK, but not back up, so this is a problem.

Any suggestions for keeping the little buggers contained for a few weeks?
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jcdill
Subject:Baby Gate
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Time:2010-04-19 05:38 pm (UTC)
Put a Baby Gate across the opening.
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whipartist
Subject:Re: Baby Gate
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Time:2010-04-19 05:39 pm (UTC)
How do the adult cats get in and out?
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gunga_galunga
Subject:Re: Baby Gate
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Time:2010-04-19 05:55 pm (UTC)
They jump over it. Even my fat, 15 y.o. cat can get over a baby gate if he really wants to. That said, you are going to struggle to find something that the adults can navigate but the kittens can't. I'm surprised they can't make it back up the stairs, although that's probably not very far away.
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whipartist
Subject:Re: Baby Gate
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Time:2010-04-19 05:58 pm (UTC)
Open metal stairs. They get over the box by digging their claws into it and pulling themselves up, I think. I think I'm probably only worried about keeping them in for another two weeks max.

One of the concerns for jumping over is that the landing on the stairway side is about 2x2'.
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gunga_galunga
Subject:Re: Baby Gate
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Time:2010-04-19 06:38 pm (UTC)
How deep is the dresser? if you put the babygate from the front edge of the dresser to the wall, there should be enough room for the cats to jump over it and land above the stairs. Being cats, they could probably deal with it even if it's only a foot of space (or a less, for that matter) if it's not too slick.

If the kittens can't climb the stairs, a board about 18" high would also likely work.
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whipartist
Subject:Re: Baby Gate
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Time:2010-04-19 07:49 pm (UTC)
I could probably simulate a baby gate by flattening the box that I have. It's carpeted, so not slick at all.
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rahaeli
Subject:Re: Baby Gate
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Time:2010-04-19 06:05 pm (UTC)
Both my adult cats can easily jump a baby gate! (We've tried it before...)
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jpmassar
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Time:2010-04-19 06:28 pm (UTC)
You could try renting Maxwell's daemon.

Or if the kittens can only jump so high, and the cats higher, then you could create a single path out of the prison that involved jumping.
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evwhore
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Time:2010-04-19 10:58 pm (UTC)
You could try renting Maxwell's daemon.

I award you one Internet.
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whipartist
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Time:2010-04-19 11:02 pm (UTC)
If only I had particle cats. Sigh. They grow so fast!
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rmd
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Time:2010-04-20 01:27 am (UTC)
dammit, now i'm humming They Might Be Giants.
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phoenixpdx
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Time:2010-04-19 07:15 pm (UTC)
The real answer? keep the kittens downstairs.
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phoenixpdx
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Time:2010-04-19 07:20 pm (UTC)
Let me expand on that a little bit. This way, the constraining factor (going up the stairs) is what keeps them down there, and once they get up the stair, you know they can get down by themselves.

Speaking of some (ahem) vast experience here, if a kitten wants to be somewhere, it's really difficult to keep them out, short of an actual closed door. Which doesn't allow mama to get in and out. Baby gate is probably the best bet and it won't work for much longer either. They'll climb it.
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whipartist
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Time:2010-04-19 07:46 pm (UTC)
Upstairs is significantly more kitten-safe than downstairs. Upstairs is smaller, tidier, and healthier for them.

Full-size cats can successfully evade detection when they're downstairs-- if a kitten wants to hide downstairs, it won't be found until it wants to be.
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clutch_c
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Time:2010-04-19 08:00 pm (UTC)
If cats get 'lost' the sound of an electric canopener will bring them running, once they're conditioned to associate the canopener with food.

A similar trick will work with a squeaky toy like this, if they are only allowed to play with it occasionally.
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whipartist
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Time:2010-04-19 10:08 pm (UTC)
If only I owned an electric can opener. Do people still buy them?
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rmd
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Time:2010-04-20 01:28 am (UTC)
Mostly old people, as far as I can tell.
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jcdill
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Time:2010-04-20 04:37 am (UTC)
The sound of a manual can opener opening a can of "Tuna for Cats" (from TJs) works quite well for my cat. At this point she even knows the distinctive "clink" of the partially full can being set on the counter as I open the plastic cap to give her a spoonful of tuna (she gets ~1/6 of a can daily, as a small treat).
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