July 16th, 2010

Why do christians do this?

I moderate the atheists only tribe on Tribe.net. The site is mostly dead, but every now and then I get a new membership request for the tribe. Here's the one that I got today:
I have no need to join your pathetic group but instead to say that you spend to much time skimming through the bible instead of actually reading it and making some childish page that no one really see's for your own amusement. But every question you put up all ten of them are flawed. Because i study the bible and if you were to ask a christian just one of those questions they would probably look at you with a puzzled look because of how you try and interpret the bible. You chose not to believe in God because you think this world happened by accident and that accident that came from nothing gave life to everything and to everything a purpose. But if you actually stopped feeding people bull crap science and archeologists can both tell you with proof that the events that happened in the bible actually happened. Science is made up of hypothesis and guessing every ten or so years they come up with a new hypothesis that contradicted the last one. Jesus is the way the truth and the life and no one come to the father except through him. I have said what i need to and im never logging on this childish site ever again.
What I don't get is this: if your belief in something is really so strong, why does it matter to you if I think it's a fairy tale?

And on the same subject, I came across this speech from Nate Phelps the other day. Nate is the son of Fred Phelps, head of the Westboro Baptist Church. WBC is the morons who go out and picket everything in site-- Matthew Shepard's funeral, soldiers' funerals, a showing of Fiddler on the Roof in San Francisco...

Earworms, horror, and music

A while ago, Tom and I got into a discussion about bad music. As often happens, a bit of a rivalry developed, and then a bet was made... you know how these things go. The bet was on which one of us could come up with the best list of the ten worst pop songs. We came up with terms of the bet and a judging system, and then waited (and waited and waited) while our judges rated the songs. One judge got fired and replaced. Finally, the results are in! That means that we can share this list with the world.

The instructions to the judges were as follow:
Here is a list of 20 songs, ten from each of us. We've provided YouTube links for your memory-jogging convenience. Please rate each song on a scale of -10 to 10, where -10 is the worst thing you've ever subjected your ears to, and 10 is as good as Bohemian Rhapsody. Use your own definitions of good and bad, but please consider music, lyrics, and that intagible quality of awfulness. The videos are provided simply so you have an easy way to hear the music, so please don't factor the quality of the video into your decisions.
All of the links should go to YouTube videos, though there's a risk that any of them could get taken down at a moment's notice. If that happens, leave a comment and I'll find a new link.

In a few days I'll reveal the results of the original bet, along with the color commentary from the judging panel. Anyone can vote, so long as they have a LiveJournal account.

Enjoy!

Poll #1593317 Ear Invaders

Achy Breaky Heart, Billy Ray Cyrus

Mean: -3.62 Median: -3.5 Std. Dev 4.38
0(0.0%)
-10
2(8.3%)
-9
3(12.5%)
-8
2(8.3%)
-7
1(4.2%)
-6
1(4.2%)
-5
1(4.2%)
-4
2(8.3%)
-3
1(4.2%)
-2
3(12.5%)
-1
1(4.2%)
0
2(8.3%)
1
2(8.3%)
2
1(4.2%)
3
1(4.2%)
4
0(0.0%)
5
1(4.2%)
6
0(0.0%)
7
0(0.0%)
8
0(0.0%)
9
0(0.0%)
10
0(0.0%)

Afternoon Delight, Starland Vocal Band

Mean: -0.28 Median: 1 Std. Dev 4.73
0(0.0%)
-10
0(0.0%)
-9
2(8.0%)
-8
1(4.0%)
-7
0(0.0%)
-6
0(0.0%)
-5
4(16.0%)
-4
0(0.0%)
-3
1(4.0%)
-2
1(4.0%)
-1
0(0.0%)
0
3(12.0%)
1
2(8.0%)
2
4(16.0%)
3
3(12.0%)
4
1(4.0%)
5
1(4.0%)
6
1(4.0%)
7
0(0.0%)
8
0(0.0%)
9
0(0.0%)
10
1(4.0%)

Billy Don't Be a Hero, Bo Donaldson & The Heywoods

Mean: -3.17 Median: -3.5 Std. Dev 4.36
0(0.0%)
-10
1(4.2%)
-9
2(8.3%)
-8
2(8.3%)
-7
2(8.3%)
-6
1(4.2%)
-5
1(4.2%)
-4
3(12.5%)
-3
2(8.3%)
-2
1(4.2%)
-1
3(12.5%)
0
2(8.3%)
1
0(0.0%)
2
1(4.2%)
3
1(4.2%)
4
0(0.0%)
5
1(4.2%)
6
1(4.2%)
7
0(0.0%)
8
0(0.0%)
9
0(0.0%)
10
0(0.0%)

Convoy, CW McCall

Mean: -2.04 Median: -3 Std. Dev 5.53
0(0.0%)
-10
2(8.7%)
-9
3(13.0%)
-8
0(0.0%)
-7
1(4.3%)
-6
1(4.3%)
-5
0(0.0%)
-4
2(8.7%)
-3
5(21.7%)
-2
0(0.0%)
-1
0(0.0%)
0
1(4.3%)
1
1(4.3%)
2
0(0.0%)
3
2(8.7%)
4
0(0.0%)
5
3(13.0%)
6
1(4.3%)
7
0(0.0%)
8
1(4.3%)
9
0(0.0%)
10
0(0.0%)

Having My Baby, Paul Anka

Mean: -5.00 Median: -6 Std. Dev 4.46
0(0.0%)
-10
7(28.0%)
-9
0(0.0%)
-8
1(4.0%)
-7
1(4.0%)
-6
5(20.0%)
-5
3(12.0%)
-4
1(4.0%)
-3
0(0.0%)
-2
1(4.0%)
-1
0(0.0%)
0
2(8.0%)
1
1(4.0%)
2
0(0.0%)
3
2(8.0%)
4
1(4.0%)
5
0(0.0%)
6
0(0.0%)
7
0(0.0%)
8
0(0.0%)
9
0(0.0%)
10
0(0.0%)

I've Never Been to Me, Charlene

Mean: -3.87 Median: -4 Std. Dev 3.57
0(0.0%)
-10
2(8.7%)
-9
1(4.3%)
-8
0(0.0%)
-7
2(8.7%)
-6
2(8.7%)
-5
4(17.4%)
-4
4(17.4%)
-3
0(0.0%)
-2
2(8.7%)
-1
0(0.0%)
0
3(13.0%)
1
1(4.3%)
2
1(4.3%)
3
1(4.3%)
4
0(0.0%)
5
0(0.0%)
6
0(0.0%)
7
0(0.0%)
8
0(0.0%)
9
0(0.0%)
10
0(0.0%)

If you could read my mind, Gordon Lightfoot

Mean: 2.08 Median: 2 Std. Dev 3.89
0(0.0%)
-10
0(0.0%)
-9
0(0.0%)
-8
0(0.0%)
-7
0(0.0%)
-6
1(4.0%)
-5
1(4.0%)
-4
1(4.0%)
-3
1(4.0%)
-2
1(4.0%)
-1
0(0.0%)
0
2(8.0%)
1
3(12.0%)
2
4(16.0%)
3
1(4.0%)
4
3(12.0%)
5
3(12.0%)
6
1(4.0%)
7
0(0.0%)
8
2(8.0%)
9
1(4.0%)
10
0(0.0%)

Johnny Freedom, Johnny Horton

Mean: -3.18 Median: -1.5 Std. Dev 4.11
0(0.0%)
-10
1(4.5%)
-9
3(13.6%)
-8
1(4.5%)
-7
2(9.1%)
-6
0(0.0%)
-5
2(9.1%)
-4
0(0.0%)
-3
1(4.5%)
-2
1(4.5%)
-1
4(18.2%)
0
4(18.2%)
1
0(0.0%)
2
1(4.5%)
3
2(9.1%)
4
0(0.0%)
5
0(0.0%)
6
0(0.0%)
7
0(0.0%)
8
0(0.0%)
9
0(0.0%)
10
0(0.0%)

Maneater, Hall & Oates

Mean: 0.12 Median: -0.5 Std. Dev 4.93
0(0.0%)
-10
1(4.2%)
-9
0(0.0%)
-8
1(4.2%)
-7
0(0.0%)
-6
1(4.2%)
-5
1(4.2%)
-4
1(4.2%)
-3
3(12.5%)
-2
2(8.3%)
-1
2(8.3%)
0
1(4.2%)
1
1(4.2%)
2
1(4.2%)
3
2(8.3%)
4
2(8.3%)
5
2(8.3%)
6
1(4.2%)
7
0(0.0%)
8
1(4.2%)
9
0(0.0%)
10
1(4.2%)

Mickey, Toni Basil

Mean: 1.56 Median: 2 Std. Dev 4.99
0(0.0%)
-10
1(4.0%)
-9
0(0.0%)
-8
0(0.0%)
-7
1(4.0%)
-6
1(4.0%)
-5
0(0.0%)
-4
2(8.0%)
-3
1(4.0%)
-2
0(0.0%)
-1
0(0.0%)
0
4(16.0%)
1
1(4.0%)
2
2(8.0%)
3
2(8.0%)
4
2(8.0%)
5
4(16.0%)
6
0(0.0%)
7
2(8.0%)
8
0(0.0%)
9
0(0.0%)
10
2(8.0%)

My Heart Will Go On, Celene Dion

Mean: -4.21 Median: -5 Std. Dev 4.69
0(0.0%)
-10
3(12.5%)
-9
3(12.5%)
-8
1(4.2%)
-7
3(12.5%)
-6
2(8.3%)
-5
0(0.0%)
-4
2(8.3%)
-3
2(8.3%)
-2
1(4.2%)
-1
0(0.0%)
0
3(12.5%)
1
1(4.2%)
2
2(8.3%)
3
0(0.0%)
4
0(0.0%)
5
0(0.0%)
6
0(0.0%)
7
0(0.0%)
8
1(4.2%)
9
0(0.0%)
10
0(0.0%)

New World In The Morning, Roger Whittaker

Mean: -1.91 Median: -2 Std. Dev 3.61
0(0.0%)
-10
1(4.3%)
-9
0(0.0%)
-8
1(4.3%)
-7
0(0.0%)
-6
1(4.3%)
-5
3(13.0%)
-4
2(8.7%)
-3
2(8.7%)
-2
2(8.7%)
-1
1(4.3%)
0
5(21.7%)
1
1(4.3%)
2
2(8.7%)
3
0(0.0%)
4
1(4.3%)
5
1(4.3%)
6
0(0.0%)
7
0(0.0%)
8
0(0.0%)
9
0(0.0%)
10
0(0.0%)

Ring My Bell, Anita Ward

Mean: -0.92 Median: 0 Std. Dev 4.51
0(0.0%)
-10
0(0.0%)
-9
0(0.0%)
-8
1(4.2%)
-7
1(4.2%)
-6
2(8.3%)
-5
3(12.5%)
-4
1(4.2%)
-3
1(4.2%)
-2
2(8.3%)
-1
0(0.0%)
0
6(25.0%)
1
1(4.2%)
2
2(8.3%)
3
1(4.2%)
4
1(4.2%)
5
0(0.0%)
6
0(0.0%)
7
0(0.0%)
8
0(0.0%)
9
1(4.2%)
10
1(4.2%)

Sometimes When We Touch, Dan Hill

Mean: -2.80 Median: -3 Std. Dev 4.43
0(0.0%)
-10
0(0.0%)
-9
1(4.0%)
-8
2(8.0%)
-7
3(12.0%)
-6
2(8.0%)
-5
4(16.0%)
-4
0(0.0%)
-3
4(16.0%)
-2
1(4.0%)
-1
1(4.0%)
0
1(4.0%)
1
1(4.0%)
2
0(0.0%)
3
3(12.0%)
4
0(0.0%)
5
1(4.0%)
6
0(0.0%)
7
0(0.0%)
8
1(4.0%)
9
0(0.0%)
10
0(0.0%)

Sugartime, The McGuire Sisters

Mean: -1.55 Median: 0 Std. Dev 3.77
0(0.0%)
-10
2(9.1%)
-9
0(0.0%)
-8
0(0.0%)
-7
1(4.5%)
-6
0(0.0%)
-5
2(9.1%)
-4
1(4.5%)
-3
2(9.1%)
-2
0(0.0%)
-1
1(4.5%)
0
6(27.3%)
1
2(9.1%)
2
3(13.6%)
3
2(9.1%)
4
0(0.0%)
5
0(0.0%)
6
0(0.0%)
7
0(0.0%)
8
0(0.0%)
9
0(0.0%)
10
0(0.0%)

The Beat Goes On, Sonny & Cher

Mean: 0.21 Median: 1 Std. Dev 4.59
0(0.0%)
-10
1(4.2%)
-9
0(0.0%)
-8
1(4.2%)
-7
1(4.2%)
-6
1(4.2%)
-5
0(0.0%)
-4
1(4.2%)
-3
1(4.2%)
-2
2(8.3%)
-1
0(0.0%)
0
4(16.7%)
1
0(0.0%)
2
3(12.5%)
3
2(8.3%)
4
4(16.7%)
5
2(8.3%)
6
0(0.0%)
7
0(0.0%)
8
0(0.0%)
9
1(4.2%)
10
0(0.0%)

Tonight, I celebrate my love for you, Peabo Bryson and Roberta Flack

Mean: -3.24 Median: -3 Std. Dev 3.58
0(0.0%)
-10
2(8.0%)
-9
0(0.0%)
-8
3(12.0%)
-7
0(0.0%)
-6
0(0.0%)
-5
1(4.0%)
-4
6(24.0%)
-3
2(8.0%)
-2
5(20.0%)
-1
1(4.0%)
0
1(4.0%)
1
2(8.0%)
2
1(4.0%)
3
0(0.0%)
4
0(0.0%)
5
1(4.0%)
6
0(0.0%)
7
0(0.0%)
8
0(0.0%)
9
0(0.0%)
10
0(0.0%)

Up Up and Away in My Beautiful Balloon, Fifth Dimension

Mean: -0.68 Median: 2 Std. Dev 5.46
0(0.0%)
-10
1(4.0%)
-9
1(4.0%)
-8
2(8.0%)
-7
1(4.0%)
-6
3(12.0%)
-5
1(4.0%)
-4
0(0.0%)
-3
1(4.0%)
-2
0(0.0%)
-1
1(4.0%)
0
1(4.0%)
1
0(0.0%)
2
3(12.0%)
3
5(20.0%)
4
0(0.0%)
5
2(8.0%)
6
1(4.0%)
7
1(4.0%)
8
1(4.0%)
9
0(0.0%)
10
0(0.0%)

Wind Beneath my Wings, Celene Dion

Mean: -4.48 Median: -4 Std. Dev 4.67
0(0.0%)
-10
5(20.0%)
-9
4(16.0%)
-8
0(0.0%)
-7
0(0.0%)
-6
1(4.0%)
-5
1(4.0%)
-4
4(16.0%)
-3
3(12.0%)
-2
1(4.0%)
-1
1(4.0%)
0
1(4.0%)
1
2(8.0%)
2
0(0.0%)
3
0(0.0%)
4
1(4.0%)
5
0(0.0%)
6
0(0.0%)
7
1(4.0%)
8
0(0.0%)
9
0(0.0%)
10
0(0.0%)

You Light Up My Life, Debby Boone

Mean: -4.60 Median: -6 Std. Dev 5.00
0(0.0%)
-10
4(16.0%)
-9
2(8.0%)
-8
4(16.0%)
-7
0(0.0%)
-6
4(16.0%)
-5
1(4.0%)
-4
0(0.0%)
-3
2(8.0%)
-2
3(12.0%)
-1
0(0.0%)
0
3(12.0%)
1
0(0.0%)
2
0(0.0%)
3
0(0.0%)
4
0(0.0%)
5
0(0.0%)
6
1(4.0%)
7
0(0.0%)
8
0(0.0%)
9
0(0.0%)
10
1(4.0%)