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Last night, I posted a poll about a poker hand. Synopsis: you 3-bet red aces from the button in the limit holdem round of a HORSE tournament. Your opponent then goes limp, check-calling the flop and turn. On the river, the board is 7s Jh 9s 3h Td. It's checked to you.

Poll #1423896 Poker part 2

What hands cap and then go limp on the flop?

AA
0(0.0%)
KK
0(0.0%)
QQ
0(0.0%)
JJ
0(0.0%)
TT
0(0.0%)
99
0(0.0%)
88
0(0.0%)
77
0(0.0%)
smaller pairs
1(3.2%)
AK
0(0.0%)
AQ
0(0.0%)
AJ
0(0.0%)
KQ
0(0.0%)
some other hands
0(0.0%)
You're still not speaking English
4(12.9%)

What hands play this way, then pay you off if you bet?

KK
1(3.6%)
QQ
0(0.0%)
smaller pairs
1(3.6%)
AK
1(3.6%)
AQ
0(0.0%)
AJ
0(0.0%)
some other hands
1(3.6%)
You're still not speaking English
4(14.3%)
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freelikebeer
Subject:I still can't get my head around ...
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Time:2009-07-01 08:57 pm (UTC)
Capping pre-flop then going completely limp. The ONLY thing I can think of capping preflop then going limp on the flop is, 44, 55, 66, 88, hoping to catch you in an AK, AQ bluff. But seriously, that line makes my head hurt. So, uhh, I think that they pay you off on that board. Still, my head hurts.
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freelikebeer
Subject: Having said my piece ...
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Time:2009-07-01 11:24 pm (UTC)
I'm going with KK for irony points plus your set up.
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prock
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Time:2009-07-01 10:24 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure what you're asking here. Are you asking what I would do, or what some anonymous limit hold'em tournament player would do.

The correct answer is to bet every flop. If you're going to be checking there, you'll have to have some really goofy hands in your 4-bet distribution like maybe A7 to balance the times when you check JJ.
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whipartist
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Time:2009-07-01 10:26 pm (UTC)
I'm asking what you expect your essentially-unknown opponent to be doing this with.
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prock
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Time:2009-07-01 10:36 pm (UTC)
I have no clue really. I would guess that someone who does that plays so badly that they could have anything really. I have a difficult time putting bad players on a hand.
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thorfinn
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Time:2009-07-02 04:25 am (UTC)
My poker playing cow-orker agrees with you.

The fundamental point according to him is:
1. if villian is good player, to bet that way, he's sitting on hands you know you beat.
2. if villian is bad player, he's gotten lucky, and you shouldn't be folding against bad players with luck anyway, because then you're wasting money against the odds.
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shabbirjsafdar
Subject:Is it not an easy answer?
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Time:2009-07-01 10:41 pm (UTC)
They have a hand too good to let go of, and too poor to play aggressively out of position to you. That leaves them with AK, and all the pairs that don't hit a set in their range, and maybe QQ. KK and AA would get bet by even the most dopey opponents.

I also think their stack size matters here. If the raise commits 1/4 of their stack, then they may be playing a wider range more conservatively in case it's not good.
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jnala
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Time:2009-07-02 04:21 am (UTC)
I wouldn't take his line with any hand. However, I think his most likely hands are AK and AQ. I bet, expect to be called, and expect to win.
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adb_foldem
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Time:2009-07-02 06:35 am (UTC)
Ditto
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abostick59
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Time:2009-07-02 04:52 pm (UTC)
I'm deeply amused to see that five people say that KK caps preflop and goes limp on the flop; whereas fourteen people say that KK plays this way and pays off the river bet.

I never expect people to play that way, certainly not in an online HORSE tournament. On the other hand, people really do play that way in cash games, at least in Las Vegas.
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