We just had the best kitty playtime. I found the breakthrough toy, at least for her. It's the red bug, a.k.a. the laser pointer. It only took a few minutes before she was following the bug around and then pouncing on it and trying to eat it. There was much purring. We played for about 20 minutes, then I opened a can of cat food, put it in a bowl, and put it close to me. I led her to it with the red bug, and she happily had dinner sitting about a foot away from me.
When she was done I put the food bowl in front of him, and then ignored him. He cautiously came out and had some dinner, but is far more skittish.
We had a post-prandial round of hunt the red bug, and they both seemed to be at least a little bit interested in hunting under the door for the red bug. He's pretty freaked out by me, and mostly hides when I'm around, but she's starting to get over it I think.