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Subject:Passport?
Time:12:27 pm
Poll #1476206 Fleeing the country

Do you have a valid passport?

Yes
69(77.5%)
No
18(20.2%)
Some option in case the other two don't fit
2(2.2%)


(I have no real motivation for asking other than curiosity.)
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leathers
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Time:2009-10-25 07:53 pm (UTC)
C and I have been considering vacationing sometime soon again in Canada, and have looked into the getting the 'enhanced' driver license option from NYS. In order to do that though, we both have to locate our SS cards and birth certificates. The latter is easy enough, they're in the family safe, but the former might be a little tricky. I don't even remember the last time I saw my original card, I do remember laminating it at one point to keep it from crumbling in my wallet, but after about 1994 or 95 I don't remember seeing it again.
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mickdog
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Time:2009-10-25 08:14 pm (UTC)
My five year-old son has one too (got it when he was four), but has yet to use it outside of the U.S. I like to take it with me on domestic flights though, despite it not being required.
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jcdill
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Time:2009-10-27 12:53 am (UTC)
I find that showing a passport for domestic flights gets you an increased measure of respect from TSA. For this reason I use my passport as my primary ID everywhere. The only time I show a driver's license is when I need to prove I'm licensed to *drive*.
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bldrnrpdx
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Time:2009-10-25 08:18 pm (UTC)
I've got two old ones (over 20 years old), and we're working on getting new ones for next spring. Is there any particular advantage to the "enhanced" driver license option? Near as I could figure off the table display was that it is slightly less useful than the book version, but I don't know what the dis/advantages are in real-life use. Personally, I'd rather have the book with the stamps in it where I can see them.
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leathers
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Time:2009-10-25 09:05 pm (UTC)
In New York, the enhanced DL can only be used on trips to Canada, Mexico and the Carribean instead of a US Passport. Anywhere else you want to go, it won't be accepted when you try to return to the country.

So in terms of cost, it would be cheaper in the short run unless you were planning on traveling to Europe or Asia (Middle East etc) in the 10 years after you got your passport. For us, we have no intention of flying until restrictions are eased (meaning probably never again) so we're unlikely to be needing a passport.
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whipartist
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Time:2009-10-25 09:14 pm (UTC)
I'm reading that, perhaps incorrectly, as, "Because of current travel restrictions, we have no intention of flying until..."

What about the current restrictions do you find unacceptable?
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leathers
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Time:2009-10-25 09:32 pm (UTC)
No, you're reading it as I intended it to be written and understood. Neither of us much understand or appreciate the need for all the screening thats going on at airports, the increased fantatical security methods that are fairly bankrupting the airlines without really protecting us that much more, considering they're a colossal waste of time and resources, in as much as they're really window dressing, since they for the most part don't work.

One instance of a bumbling dunderhead trying to light his shoes on fire, now everyone has to remove their shoes for screening purposes at the airport, but can walk onto a train without any screening whatsoever...does this make sense? Having to give up nail clippers at the screening point because it might be a weapon? Please. At what point do we say enough is enough? When some idiot tries to make a bomb out of his clothing and everyone is going to have to permit themselves to be strip searched in order to board a plane...thats the direction we're going.....

As soon as saner methods come back in to play, we'll be buying our tickets at the counter...but not likely until then.
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whipartist
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Time:2009-10-25 09:55 pm (UTC)
Interesting. I mostly don't agree with you.

Agreed, a lot of what is happening right now is security theater rather than security. And yet, as someone who flies a lot, I don't perceive the current restrictions as being all that different from the procedures in 2000. Yes, I have to take my shoes off. Yes, there are tight restrictions on liquids.

I'm interested in your assertion that current screening is bankrupting the airlines. I may be wrong, but I thought that the TSA was largely taxpayer-funded, not airline-funded. Am I wrong?
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adbjupe
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Time:2009-10-25 10:07 pm (UTC)
But the screening fees are either part of your ticket or added as taxes when you purchase the ticket. Something to the tune of $7, or half a checked bag. Which raises the ticket price without the airline seeing any of it.
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rightkindofme
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Time:2009-10-25 11:33 pm (UTC)
Your friends group is incredibly unusual in terms of the norm in this country. :)

Oh, and Shanna has a passport, and she's used it. :D
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whipartist
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Time:2009-10-26 12:39 am (UTC)
Yes, yes I know. My hypothesis was that the vast majority of my friends would have passports.

I list my passport as one of the six things I can't live without on my OKCupid profile. Someone sent me a message and mentioned that he didn't have a passport because he rarely traveled, and my instinctive response was, "Eek! Run away!"
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mgrape
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Time:2009-10-26 12:01 am (UTC)
Where's the "yes, more than one" option? ;)
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crayonbeam
Subject:escape & return plan
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Time:2009-10-26 01:18 am (UTC)
Max and I have both had passports since before we were one. I've kept mine up to date since then. I'm working on getting my Hungarian passport as well, but it will take years.
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cpk
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Time:2009-10-26 06:35 am (UTC)
My passport *just* expired. I am sending it off this week to get renewed. However, I have an EDL in case I want to go to Canada.
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yayhappens
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Time:2009-10-26 07:28 am (UTC)
I need to get mine renewed. It has been a subject of discussion over the past few months for us to both renew them in case of an emergency. Just need to dig them out and hand over some more precious green to the good ol' govt when it starts to grow on our trees. Heh.
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rhiannonstone
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Time:2009-10-26 07:32 am (UTC)
No, and I feel really weird about it. I meant to do something about it before the new passports came out and didn't get around to it. It's on my list of things to get done after I graduate.
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adbploink
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Time:2009-10-26 10:13 am (UTC)
Had to get new pages last month.
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bellaballanda
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Time:2009-10-26 06:58 pm (UTC)
i'm on my second passport. when you get them before 16 they expire in 5 years so i had to renew mine already.
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jcdill
Subject:Where is it?
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Time:2009-10-27 12:50 am (UTC)
A more interesting question is, where is your passport?

Mine is in my purse.
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whipartist
Subject:Re: Where is it?
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Time:2009-10-27 01:25 am (UTC)
In my purse. You never know when you'll need to suddenly flee the country.
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wordweaverlynn
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Time:2009-10-27 12:55 pm (UTC)
I got a passport to go to England on my honeymoon -- in 1985. It's the only time I have ever left the country. No, not even Canada, although I've been to Rochester (NY) repeatedly, and I lived close enough to the border to make it a weekend trip.
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whipartist
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Time:2009-11-09 03:54 pm (UTC)
Mine is memorized too.
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