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Subject:And lions and bears too
Time:11:24 pm
(Someone asked me about this over dinner tonight. Here's my opinion.)

So apparently some guy in Florida was in a minor car accident recently, and the guy seems to have some notoriety for his skill at failed optimization problems. It was a single-vehicle collision, and nobody was seriously injured. As a result of ridiculous public curiosity about the accident, we learned that the driver of the vehicle has had extramarital affairs.

Bottom line: I couldn't care less about the details of the accident, nor about the driver's affairs, and I don't really understand why anyone else is worked up about the whole thing.
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yayhappens
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Time:2009-12-04 07:48 am (UTC)
I'm disappointed to hear the news for more personal reasons for myself. I actually really don't care to hear tabloid news like that.

What does affect us here is just down the street. The Tiger Woods Learning Center is a HUGE thing for the kids here. The curriculum offered is better than what the public schools offer for sure. SOSK has attended classes there for a few years and has actually met Tiger and has photos with him.

The kids that attend are from ages 11 and up. SOSK is 15. With Tiger's name attached to the place the kids are learning from, and it being a place that Tiger actually visits, it opens a can of worms to try and explain what is going on when the news is especially big at that place specifically.

It wouldn't matter so much, if I didn't have an extra person to consider and check in with, but now I'm actually having to keep tabs on the stuff and raise my awareness about what the news is about it (and other tabloid things for that matter) so that our role models, or the public figures we grow fond of doesn't become a shitty or untrustworthy or warped experience. For SOSK or the people he looks up to or is exposed to it does have some significance.

The media just makes everyones life a living hell. They irritate everyone with crappy news, whether we care to know or not!

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whipartist
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Time:2009-12-04 05:23 pm (UTC)
In his defense, he's a professor of evidentiary law. When I asked him why anyone would care, he said that he had a professional curiosity about whether the facts of the situation fit the narrative.

Of course, I think that's just an excuse for voyeurism.
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wordweaverlynn
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Time:2009-12-04 09:06 am (UTC)
Now that's the right attitude.
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slfisher
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Time:2009-12-04 12:42 pm (UTC)
What I'm concerned about is that we have a potential spousal abuse situation and all anyone seems to care about is whether he was screwing around.

As a friend of mine said, if we had the wife of a male athlete lying on the ground bloodied, with the male athlete standing over her holding a golf club, after he'd broken in the windows of the car she was using to try to get away from him, would we really be focused on whether she'd had an affair?
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greeklady
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Time:2009-12-04 05:09 pm (UTC)
How do we know there was a potential spousal abuse situation other than people speculating. No one had visible marks. So what the windows were broken out.

None of this is our business either way as long as no one was physically hurt and he paid for the damages of driving like a jackass.
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slfisher
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Time:2009-12-04 05:22 pm (UTC)
You're right, we don't know. That's why I think it should be investigated.

No one was physically hurt? The first news reports said he was seriously hurt. No visible marks? I thought they said he had cuts on his face. It only counts as abuse if people can see it?

And if he was driving like a jackass because he was being pursued by a violent spouse, that's *his* fault?
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greeklady
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Time:2009-12-04 05:38 pm (UTC)
No it isn't our place to investigate just because of a car accident.

Spousal abuse can only be prosecuted by the law if the either "deem it needful" or see visible marks. Since they are full of excuses as to how the car windows were bashed out and had a car accident, no it isn't our business.

Spousal abuse happens at all levels of society from the rich to the poor. The rich have more options on getting out, getting therapy and the like. Either way, no it isn't anyones business until someone asks for help.

I know many people who drive like a jackass and they don't have a assumed violent spouse chasing after them. Could it not be they got into a fight and he was screeching away like a dummy? Could it be he was wanting to just leave the house and has a powerful vehicle and because of the time of the night didn't pay attention to what or where he was going? Could it be they were out of milk or desert of choice and he was heading to the store half asleep and slipped up?

Again, assumption on everyones part and all the more reason for it not to be on the cover story of cnn.com yesterday, every news, talk show, radio show coast to coast. It isn't our business. I don't care how much money he makes or what sports hero he is. Until there is a police report saying someone hit someone, not our problem or business. I don't even care if he sleeps around. I don't buy my products based on who endorses what.

I am not going to assume someone was hit, slept around on or what have you. As long as he wasn't drunk driving (which would involve me if I ever visit florida being on a public road) I don't care.

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essaying
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Time:2009-12-04 05:32 pm (UTC)
Yes. Exactly. Felt the same way when Phil Hartman died -- why wasn't anybody talking about the fact that he was abused for years before he was finally murdered?? The disconnect about female violence toward men in this culture is *huge*.
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mangosteen
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Time:2009-12-04 02:58 pm (UTC)
[...]and I don't really understand why anyone else is worked up about the whole thing.

At a guess, because the only national pastime more popular than building up our heroes to perfection, is tearing them down once they falter at all.
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prock
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Time:2009-12-04 05:11 pm (UTC)
It's kind of like watching musicals without the music or the fiction.
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essaying
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Time:2009-12-04 05:31 pm (UTC)
My interest lay in whether at long last this event was going to open a dialogue about abusive spouses not always being male. But, sigh, it appears not. So now I'm pretty bored with it too.
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gunga_galunga
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Time:2009-12-04 07:42 pm (UTC)
I don't really understand why anyone else is worked up about the whole thing.

Because it beats worrying about the war in Afghanistan, the recession/depression, health care reform, whether global warming is real, H1N1, or any other real problem.

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loser_variable
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Time:2009-12-04 09:25 pm (UTC)
What does Tiger Woods have in common with baby seals? They both get clubbed by Norwegians. Tee hee.
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