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Time:10:36 pm
I'm arguing with a right-wing bigot on Facebook right now. This particular exchange cracked me up:

Him: I think people over think this. America was founded on Christian principles in the English language. Just because another language was on the land first doesn't mean it was a part of the nation. Every important document i.e. The Constitution, The Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights, etc. was wrote (sic) in English.

Me: You do know that many of the founding fathers weren't Christian, yes? Also, the constitution was founded primarily on the principles of English common law. That the US was founded on "christian principles" is a common misconception.

Him: "One Nation Under God"? I want to hear the rebuttal to that.

Me: You mean in the pledge of allegiance? The "under god" portion of that was inserted in the 1950s as a reaction to communism. The original pledge said "one nation, indivisible".

Him: Explain "In God We Trust"?

Me: Adopted as our national motto in 1956 for the same reason. Also, note that it does not specify which god-- I'm sort of partial to Zeus myself.

Him: If you are that politically correct than no wonder you like the commercial
Him: Sorry.. "politically correct"


Sorry, guy. Ad hominem attacks are an automatic DQ.
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markgritter
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Time:2014-02-04 08:06 am (UTC)
Heh... they could at least appeal to the Eye of Providence and "Annuit Coeptis". But, you know, 1956, 1776, basically the same thing, right?

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rmd
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Time:2014-02-04 10:12 am (UTC)
STOP BRINGING YOUR POLITICAL CORRECTNESS AND "FACTS" IN HERE, MAAAAAN.
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omahas
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Time:2014-02-04 03:29 pm (UTC)
It is amusing, in a sad way, how once you provide facts to these people that they just simply start attacking because it's all they've got left. They are not actually interested in a conversation of information with open minds. Change is just too scary for cultists.
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smartmeanfatkid
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Time:2014-02-04 03:36 pm (UTC)
"Politically Correct"

Out of all of the terms in the right-wing lexicon, this one is the most fascinating to me.
I always get the impression that the people who use it non-ironically think that liberals really do think [racist/sexist/gender/orientation stereotype] is true, but due to the vast importance we put on being politically correct, we can't say it and we can't let anyone else say it, either.
Also, we strictly enforce politically correct terms as some sort of "gotcha" as a way of hypocritically punishing people for behavior we all secretly indulge in ourselves.

In any case, when someone does use the phrase non-ironically, I pretty much stop paying attention to their argument.
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filthy_habit
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Time:2014-02-05 01:37 am (UTC)
All I can say is have fun with the bigot. No sense in talking sense to some people.

The only benefits I ever got from the pursuit is understanding more clearly what it is I think and why I think it, and that I have written some of my best and most passionate stuff at these people.
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whipartist
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Time:2014-02-06 11:23 am (UTC)
The original message that started the debate was posted by someone I went to high school with. I actually *did* get a thoughtful, nuanced explanation from her of why the commercial bothered her. It had to do with her feeling like the country is disintegrating, and her longing for her sugar-coated memory of the way it was in the 80s.

Nothing she said was the least bit persuasive to me, of course, but it gave me a better understanding of why she felt the way she does.
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tom_bayes
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Time:2014-02-06 01:24 pm (UTC)
Ah, the 1980s. Such a magical time, when Saint Ronnie was president and the most prominent black person in the country was Cliff Huxtable (a fictional character from a popular sitcom).

I knew as soon as I saw that Coke ad that the social media and the right-wing blogosphere was going to explode with rage.
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adbjupe
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Time:2014-02-06 02:05 pm (UTC)
while drinking Coke
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rightkindofme
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Time:2014-02-05 01:43 am (UTC)
Still glad I got off facebook. Oy.
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whipartist
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Time:2014-02-06 11:19 am (UTC)
Yes, but the clue-by-four doesn't seem to have worked on him. No surprise.
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